Comments on: What Seattle code issues stop you from building green(er)? http://www.djc.com/blogs/BuildingGreen/2008/03/25/what-seattle-code-issues-stop-you-from-building-greener/?&owa_from=feed&owa_sid= Tue, 06 Jan 2009 06:24:11 +0000 http://wordpress.org/?v=2.6 By: Kevin Eckert http://www.djc.com/blogs/BuildingGreen/2008/03/25/what-seattle-code-issues-stop-you-from-building-greener/#comment-13 Kevin Eckert Wed, 26 Mar 2008 16:11:39 +0000 http://blog.djc.com/index.php/?p=20#comment-13 I believe the city needs to either: a. terminate its design review process, or b. overhaul it to focus on sound urban planning and sustainable principles. When you are a small company, so much of our resources have to go into these types of unnecessary or unneeded hurdles (design review boards) that we could instead be spending on researching, devising and incorporating green features. Our design review boards typically have tried to unwittingly change our course on durable (i.e. sustainable) materials because they are so conditioned to EIFS, hardi and other entirely inadequate systems (as an example). If the boards had made better architecture happen in Seattle, I think it would be worthy to "tweak" them- but take an honest assessment of our mixed use buildings and, well, that is not energy well spent- quite the contrary. I believe the city needs to either:
a. terminate its design review process,
or
b. overhaul it to focus on sound urban planning and sustainable principles.
When you are a small company, so much of our resources have to go into these types of unnecessary or unneeded hurdles (design review boards) that we could instead be spending on researching, devising and incorporating green features.
Our design review boards typically have tried to unwittingly change our course on durable (i.e. sustainable) materials because they are so conditioned to EIFS, hardi and other entirely inadequate systems (as an example).
If the boards had made better architecture happen in Seattle, I think it would be worthy to “tweak” them- but take an honest assessment of our mixed use buildings and, well, that is not energy well spent- quite the contrary.

]]> By: Ken Barnes http://www.djc.com/blogs/BuildingGreen/2008/03/25/what-seattle-code-issues-stop-you-from-building-greener/#comment-12 Ken Barnes Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:24:35 +0000 http://blog.djc.com/index.php/?p=20#comment-12 Hi Katie, My wife and I are building a studio for my sculpture and her painting. At only 2,300sf it is small, but should be quite green. We have run into no particular difficulties in either permitting or construction. The stormwater detention almost became an issue because I wanted a different design than what the City of Seattle typically approves, but I drew out my idea and a couple days later it was accepted, with a minor tweak. I had to educate my concrete guy to use an ICF form for the foundation stemwalls so that there would not be any form trash, and probably paid a little extra to educate him. So far we have not made a single dump run, and our site is cleaner now than when we started, since most construction suppliers seem to be on board with using recyclable packaging, if any. Our green mechanicals were planned early. They have cost more than standard, but we had no extra issues with permitting. The inspector has been grumpy, but we all have bad days. I would gladly do it all again. Hi Katie,

My wife and I are building a studio for my sculpture and her painting. At only 2,300sf it is small, but should be quite green. We have run into no particular difficulties in either permitting or construction. The stormwater detention almost became an issue because I wanted a different design than what the City of Seattle typically approves, but I drew out my idea and a couple days later it was accepted, with a minor tweak.

I had to educate my concrete guy to use an ICF form for the foundation stemwalls so that there would not be any form trash, and probably paid a little extra to educate him. So far we have not made a single dump run, and our site is cleaner now than when we started, since most construction suppliers seem to be on board with using recyclable packaging, if any.

Our green mechanicals were planned early. They have cost more than standard, but we had no extra issues with permitting. The inspector has been grumpy, but we all have bad days. I would gladly do it all again.

]]> By: Ross Dorn http://www.djc.com/blogs/BuildingGreen/2008/03/25/what-seattle-code-issues-stop-you-from-building-greener/#comment-11 Ross Dorn Tue, 25 Mar 2008 23:23:20 +0000 http://blog.djc.com/index.php/?p=20#comment-11 There are a bunch of areas that could make it easier: 1) density (FAR) bonuses for defined green building commitments; 2) waiver of sales tax on green expenditures; 3) change state, county and city laws to allow for on-site cisterns and water re-use, which I believe is technically illegal at the present time; 4) tax credits for higher cost green elements, such as photovoltaic arrays, green roofs, etc...; and 5) a dedicated green permitting person at DPD who can help expedite permitting and coordinate the attainment of available incentives and credits. There are a bunch of areas that could make it easier: 1) density (FAR) bonuses for defined green building commitments; 2) waiver of sales tax on green expenditures; 3) change state, county and city laws to allow for on-site cisterns and water re-use, which I believe is technically illegal at the present time; 4) tax credits for higher cost green elements, such as photovoltaic arrays, green roofs, etc…; and 5) a dedicated green permitting person at DPD who can help expedite permitting and coordinate the attainment of available incentives and credits.

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