Can we afford to go back to streetcars?
My grandmother tells me that the streetcars that criss-crossed Seattle when she was young had wicker seats and cost a nickel. They were everywhere, they were fast and they were used by everyone.
Times have certainly changed. Say what you will about the vices and virtues of streetcars, the reality is they’re not cheap.
SDOT presented a $595 million four-line streetcar network plan to Seattle City Council members Tuesday. The four lines they propose would connect a dozen central and northern neighborhoods for about $40 million a mile.
Some council members questioned the mode of transit. Buses are cheaper, more maneuverable and we’ve been investing in them for forty years, said council member Tom Rasmussen. There’s also the more affordable electric trolleys (pretty much buses) as an option, Rasmussen said.
Others questioned the duplication between the lines and existing and proposed Metro routes.
SDOT said the streetcars will make some of those bus routes obsolete, like the No. 70 in the U District, and will also fill some service gaps, like between downtown Ballard and downtown Fremont. (I guess the No. 28 bus doesn’t count because it doesn’t go deep into Ballard?)
Another benefit: Streetcar money stays in Seattle, unlike Metro dollars and service, which are distributed throughout the county.
Also, people are more likely to ride the streetcar than the bus, they say. They certainly used to, and they have taken it up in most cities that put one in (or put one back in, sigh).
I thought tons of people were riding the bus until I got a reality check a few weeks ago. The Dalai Lama was here and my bus was full to the gills still 30 minutes from downtown. It passed hundreds of riders on the way into town, people who live on the bus line and just don’t take it for whatever reason most days.
My grandmother remembers when it was assumed you would take the streetcar everywhere in Seattle. I wish we were debating how to update those old lines and not trying to figure out whether to pay for these new ones.
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May 7th, 2008 at 12:54 pm
Remember that a lot of the cost of the streetcar is rebuilding the streets, which in some cases are things we need to do anyway.
But yeah, it seems insane that we’re talking about running a streetcar up Westlake after it seems like we just pulled the rails out a few years back…
May 8th, 2008 at 12:09 pm
According to Steve, “My grandmother remembers when it was assumed you would take the streetcar everywhere in Seattle.”
Let’s recall that, in their heyday, streetcars were so popular because the average person didn’t drive, let alone have, a private car. Today the ratio of trolleys to private vehicles is markedly different. Given our already crowded arterials and low funding for street repairs, adding trolley tracks to the traffic doesn’t make as much sense.
May 9th, 2008 at 9:28 pm
What about trying a simple PRT route?
Or atleast let people know about it?
See these 3 sites, first two have videos, 3rd answers most questions.
GetThereFast.org
SkyWebExpress.com or Taxi2000.com
http://kinetic.seattle.wa.us/prt.html